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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2009, 09:07:06 PM »

I feel sorry for this kid.  I was reading some of his comments on other youtube pages and he's just completely full of hate and anger, a sad existence.

Yeah. We are all raised amidst a culture steeped in fear and violence. My guess is this kid is being subjected to some of the worst of it. Maybe the child of cops or some other type of abusive authoritarian.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2009, 09:17:05 PM »

I feel sorry for this kid.  I was reading some of his comments on other youtube pages and he's just completely full of hate and anger, a sad existence.

Yeah. We are all raised amidst a culture steeped in fear and violence. My guess is this kid is being subjected to some of the worst of it. Maybe the child of cops or some other type of abusive authoritarian.



Most likely a jail guard. Most of them are worse than regular cops.
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« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2010, 01:15:57 AM »

So... on November 14th, I sent this to the video's creator:

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Subject: Thanks for the entertainment

Just wanted to send you a note of appreciation and let you know that I was entertained by your videos.

Best,
Ian

He just responded tonight with the following:

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ian.
thank you for your response.
i wish i had more time. you guys give me so much fodder.
i have lived in Keene for 41 years.
i share many of your political views.
i was very close to attending one of your "social Sunday" events.
then i learned that you held a "candlelight vigil" at officer Rivieras and judge Burkes homes.
i am saddened and disgusted by your tactics.
i have not had the pleasure of meeting judge Burke but that dosent matter.
i know and respect officer Rivera on a personal and professional level.
officer Rivera has been active in local sports, the school system, local politics and law enforcement in my community since you were in diapers.
if you want to change the KPD..... buck up, ruck up and join the force.
if you have a problem with "the man" the place to address that is the state house, city hall or the police station.
not the mans home.
i don't know what happens in florida but we don't do that in New Hampshire.
if you fuck with a mans family, all bets are off.
if you disagree with me, will you come to my door with torches and handguns?
neither one of us wants that. trust me.
our emergency services have been sooo patient with you. obviously too patient.
you are a pimple on my town.
i feel awkward returning your correspondence anonymously but my first priority is my family.
when my children are old enough to take care of themselves you will know exactly who i am, (we have met, twice)
but at this rate, you will have either been shot, beating to death, moved to san fransico where the people are free...... or you will have grown up.
did you get your first blow job at a protest? is that the issue?

you made an unimaginable blunder for your cause by going to Burke and Rivieras homes. fuck you.
is this how you "win the hearts and minds" of well established tight community.
now i look at your cowardly whining as a mere bump in the road.

i am not alone.
tony

your thoughts?
please post this on your failing web site.
or do you lack the balls.


Here is my reply:

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Hello,

Thanks for the thoughts. Please be aware I was not the organizer of the vigils. If it matters to you, that information can be attained via the FK forum. You can blame me if it makes you feel better, though, as I was an attendee a few times.

To your main point though, do you not think it "fucked with a man's family" when Rivera attacked Kurt Hoffman? How do you think his wife felt watching that happen? Eli acted that day in court out of fear and anger, and in response he got a group of people standing outside his house with candles for a few nights.

Somehow you see the candlelight vigils as worse than making a career out of aggressing against peaceful people? (Kurt is not the first person Eli has hurt.)

Also, I don't think you'd ever have a vigil at your home because you "disagree". Presumably, you are not aggressing against peaceful people, so you have nothing to be concerned over.

I can post your message to Free Keene, but why don't you? The forum is open to anyone. I think expressing your thoughts in your introduction post would be appropriate. Here's the intro forum:
http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?board=13.0

All the best,
Ian


Since I doubt he'll actually post himself, I thought you all might find that interesting.  Perhaps he'll surprise us and actually post here.
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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2010, 03:03:30 AM »

Yes, because physically abusing someone and locking them in a cage does not "F*** with their family", but peacefully standing outside someone's home with candles does.

Here's the truth: The problem is not with some faceless "man". The problem is with individuals like Rivera, who act in ways we all would recognize as totally unacceptable, in any other context, and who react violently to those who refuse to show the proper obsequiousness.

They are personally responsible for every one of their actions, as individuals, just as everyone else is. The fact that they wear a blue outfit or get a paycheck from the city doesn't change that.

Rivera may do many good things otherwise, but he has lashed out in both aggressive and excessive violence on a number of occasions, against innocent and peaceful people, and harmed those people's lives. If any non-cop did what he did, they'd be in jail -- the people coming to their house would have guns and handcuffs, not candles. Hopefully he will wake up to the unacceptability of that aspect of his behavior, and reform himself.
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« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2010, 09:08:50 AM »

any bets on who it is?

In Keene for 41 years, yet still young enough to have dependant kids. Has Met Ian twice. Hasn't met Burke. Has some graphic/video editing ability (As bad as those videos were, they used effects that aren't just avaliable to the basic newbie)

This is like Blue's Clues

I first thought William Dow maybe fit the age range and times meeting Ian. But I strongly believe he'd be able to craft a letter much better and more professional than that. The grammer and punctuation seems like what I see in police reports, but the police have met Burke. Could it be someone in the education arena?
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« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2010, 10:26:05 AM »

Maybe someone from Cheshire TV, or a member of the board of directors who disagreed with Ian on recent censorship issues.
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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2010, 12:24:37 PM »

any bets on who it is?

In Keene for 41 years, yet still young enough to have dependant kids. Has Met Ian twice. Hasn't met Burke. Has some graphic/video editing ability (As bad as those videos were, they used effects that aren't just avaliable to the basic newbie)

This is like Blue's Clues
 

I no more believe the particulars than I believe the line of patter.  The "I'd support you wholeheartedly if it weren't for this onnne thing you did" gambit is an old and tired one. 
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« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2010, 12:48:50 PM »

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"if you want to change the KPD..... buck up, ruck up and join the force.
if you have a problem with "the man" the place to address that is the state house, city hall or the police station."

When I have a problem with a private company, I don't have to buck up or join the company. If Burger King messes up my order, I don't become an employee of Burger King so that I can get a better Whopper.  I either make my complaints known or choose another service.

 Not so with the governments services. Even worse, people act indignant when you make your complaints known. As if your committing an offense by not wanting to pay for awful government services. The relationship is completely a one way streak. And yet they call themselves your "servants."
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« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 05:10:19 AM »

These videos are beyond irritating, they're just plain terrible.  The audio of the baby crying in the first one just made me shut it off.  Also, that video isn't even of Ian.  This guy claims to have met him, yet can't even find correct footage of him?
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