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« Reply #285 on: May 07, 2009, 03:16:44 PM »


Though I try to expect this kind of behavior from bureaucrats it never ceases to shock and confound me every time they follow through, true to form.
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« Reply #286 on: May 07, 2009, 04:39:12 PM »

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Also, he is now listed under his legal name, "Sam A. Miller".

Uhhh...why?

To further complicate the @#%& confusion between his name and mine . . .

Seriously?

You still don't know me very well-- Me, serious?
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« Reply #287 on: May 08, 2009, 04:03:08 PM »

Sam has confirmed he is still receiving mail for "John Sam Doe" in addition to "Sam A. Miller".
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« Reply #288 on: May 08, 2009, 04:06:37 PM »

Excellent. Thanks for the update.
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« Reply #289 on: May 08, 2009, 05:18:32 PM »

I was just thinking, the Constitution protects our right to redress of grievances. If a bunch of activist drafted and signed a list of grievances and presented it to the courts, jail, city hall, etc as it pertains to the imprisonment of Sam then those bodies would be compelled to redress those grievances. I'm not saying that this would do anything to free Sam. When that list is ignored by those bodies it would be evidence that those institutions no longer abide by the Constitution. It would negate any argument of "social contract" our detractors present us with.
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« Reply #290 on: May 09, 2009, 12:58:30 PM »

I was just thinking, the Constitution protects our right to redress of grievances. If a bunch of activist drafted and signed a list of grievances and presented it to the courts, jail, city hall, etc as it pertains to the imprisonment of Sam then those bodies would be compelled to redress those grievances. I'm not saying that this would do anything to free Sam. When that list is ignored by those bodies it would be evidence that those institutions no longer abide by the Constitution. It would negate any argument of "social contract" our detractors present us with.

Couldn't hurt.  I hope you'll lead this effort when you arrive!
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« Reply #291 on: May 10, 2009, 01:52:30 AM »

I would think that any visiting hours/days changes are based on a "day room" change, not anything specific to SamIAm. Do we know what dayroom he is in now?
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« Reply #292 on: May 11, 2009, 01:10:08 AM »

http://www.nycphotorights.com/wordpress/2009/05/06/how-far-would-you-go/
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« Reply #293 on: May 11, 2009, 06:51:37 PM »

Iran gov more humane than US? Roxana Saberi released

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ysdW7OAb3w

From RidleyReport.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ysdW7OAb3w

Digg it if you like:
http://digg.com/politics/Saberi_released_IranGov_more_humane_than_US_Roxana
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« Reply #294 on: May 11, 2009, 07:30:26 PM »

While I enjoy this barbeque chicken pizza from Amicci's I figured I could update you all on today's happenings in Sam's case.

Now, I don't want to get too excited or jump to conclusions just yet, but I think what happened today was very good news.

As you all may know I had filed a Petition for Writ of Habeas Corpus in Supreme Court.  When Supreme Court heard there were new developments in the case( i.e. that the State had determined Sam's name) they commanded the State, and allowed me, to provide them a brief citing why (or why not) they should not remand the case back to Superior Court to decide in light of this new evidence.  They gave me until May 12th to brief them.

Given that I had a week for that, and given that Superior is required by statute to decide on a Petition for Writ of Habeas Corpus within three days, I went ahead and filed a new/current Petition down in Superior Court (so that they would decide prior to my brief being due to Supreme, and in my brief in Supreme I could specifically say that they've heard and denied (or approved) these issues). 

Today Superior Court's decision was due, and the order they issued was: Van Wickler must, by Wednesday at 4pm, file a response to the allegation that Keene District Court refuses to set a trial date until [Sam] identifies himself.

In other words, it's not yet approved, it's not yet denied.  Which means I've caught their attention. 

I do not know what the outcome will be, but there will most likely be a decision between 4 and 4:30 on Wednesday, or sometime on Thursday.  I think the Superior will do one of three things: order his release; order district to schedule a trial; or deny it based on whatever "good reason" VanWickler and/or his lawyers come up with that Sam be held indefinitely.

I can't say for sure which of those three will happen.  I hope for the first, I would "best guess" at the second, and I would pray not the third.  Smiley
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« Reply #295 on: May 11, 2009, 07:34:08 PM »

Ivy, I'm so impressed by your work.
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« Reply #296 on: May 11, 2009, 07:36:23 PM »

What??  nah.  I'm sure anyone could do this if they were bored out of their mind and had nothing better to do than study the law.   angel  Hence the past year (approximately) of my life Tongue  That's not impressive, that's when you say "What a DORK!!"  lol
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« Reply #297 on: May 11, 2009, 07:36:42 PM »

Nice progress, Ivy. Good work, and thanks.
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« Reply #298 on: May 11, 2009, 07:40:28 PM »

aww shucks, well thanks guys.  I try.   Grin
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« Reply #299 on: May 11, 2009, 08:07:55 PM »

That's not impressive, that's when you say "What a DORK!!"  lol

Nah, that's when you say, "That's someone that cares about justice."

Congrats, Ivy.  Keep up the awesome work.

Here's to hoping Sam is released (or, at the very least, arraigned) soon.  I've got my fingers crossed for you both in WI.

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